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setup [2015-12-30 16:01] – [My contributions] victorsetup [2024-08-30 10:08] (current) – [Trivia] victor
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 ====== Some notes on setting up an ITS system ====== ====== Some notes on setting up an ITS system ======
-These are some brief notes on setting up an ITS system based on [[http://klh10.trailing-edge.com/|klh10]] and the [[https://archive.org/details/KLH10-PI-ITS|PI]] (Public ITS) distribution. I work on it **very occasionally**, but it may help some people along the way.+<note> 
 +2021The stuff below is old (but most of it probably still applies)You should use the [[https://github.com/PDP-10/its|Github repository]] as a primary source of code and information. 
 +</note>
  
 +These are some brief notes on setting up an ITS system based on [[http://klh10.trailing-edge.com/|klh10]] and the [[https://archive.org/details/KLH10-PI-ITS|PI]] (Public ITS) distribution. 
 +
 +<note>
 +These pages were initially written by [[http://victor.se/bjorn|Björn Victor]] (so that's who most references to "I" or "me" indicate).
 +I work on it **very occasionally**, but it may help some people along the way.
 No, I'm not an ITS wizard, just an old TOPS-20 hacker. Any comments, corrections, or suggestions for improvements are **very welcome!** No, I'm not an ITS wizard, just an old TOPS-20 hacker. Any comments, corrections, or suggestions for improvements are **very welcome!**
 +</note>
  
 Keep a copy of .INFO.;DDTORD > within arms reach at any point (or read it [[http://victor.se/bjorn/its/ddtord.html|here]]). Read {{ksits.txt|.../doc/ksits.txt}} (but see below) and {{distrib.its.txt|.../run/ksits/pubits/doc/distrib.its}} carefully. The [[http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/6165|ITS Reference Manual]] is also worth reading, at some point.  Keep a copy of .INFO.;DDTORD > within arms reach at any point (or read it [[http://victor.se/bjorn/its/ddtord.html|here]]). Read {{ksits.txt|.../doc/ksits.txt}} (but see below) and {{distrib.its.txt|.../run/ksits/pubits/doc/distrib.its}} carefully. The [[http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/6165|ITS Reference Manual]] is also worth reading, at some point. 
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   -    **Run MD instead of PI.** Instead of using PI, as suggested in .../doc/ksits.txt, use **MD**. I.e., use klh10-md.ini instead of klh10-pi.ini. \\ Using PI gives a system that runs, but many many programs don't know the PI machine, so you'll typically get ''.VALUE 0'' breakpoints when running INQUIR, LISP etc. MD is more "well-known" (except to COMPLR), so you'll get a system which is easier to use. After getting everything running, you may want to consider [[rename|renaming your system]] to something more unique.   -    **Run MD instead of PI.** Instead of using PI, as suggested in .../doc/ksits.txt, use **MD**. I.e., use klh10-md.ini instead of klh10-pi.ini. \\ Using PI gives a system that runs, but many many programs don't know the PI machine, so you'll typically get ''.VALUE 0'' breakpoints when running INQUIR, LISP etc. MD is more "well-known" (except to COMPLR), so you'll get a system which is easier to use. After getting everything running, you may want to consider [[rename|renaming your system]] to something more unique.
   -    **Get networking up.** Since the console gets random typeouts from the system (it is intended as a paper console logging what's happening to the system), it's a good idea to use the system over Telnet or Supdup.   -    **Get networking up.** Since the console gets random typeouts from the system (it is intended as a paper console logging what's happening to the system), it's a good idea to use the system over Telnet or Supdup.
-    *       If you run Linux, you may be interested in a patch to support the tun/tap device in Linux (e.g the [[http://home.comcast.net/~mmcm/klh10/tuntap.patch|patch by MMcM]]); at least this gives you local access, which is all you dare before you get PWORD/PANDA running. **Note** that this is not included in klh10-2.0h (the Panda version, see above).+    *       If you run Linux, you may be interested in a patch to support the tun/tap device in Linux (e.g the [[https://gist.github.com/MMcM/c2f99cc7656af6c15aac#file-tuntap-patch|patch by MMcM]]); at least this gives you local access, which is all you dare before you get PWORD/PANDA running. **Note** that this is not included in klh10-2.0h (the Panda version, see above).
     *     You can try [[http://victor.se/bjorn/its/raspi-ksits-iptables.txt|my iptables script]] to set up restricted external access (and forwarding of the Supdup port from the host to ITS). No guarantees it'll work in your setup. (See also my [[raspi|notes for Raspberry pi setup]].)     *     You can try [[http://victor.se/bjorn/its/raspi-ksits-iptables.txt|my iptables script]] to set up restricted external access (and forwarding of the Supdup port from the host to ITS). No guarantees it'll work in your setup. (See also my [[raspi|notes for Raspberry pi setup]].)
     *       You may also be interested in my [[http://victor.se/bjorn/its/supdup.tar.gz|patched Supdup client for Linux]].     *       You may also be interested in my [[http://victor.se/bjorn/its/supdup.tar.gz|patched Supdup client for Linux]].
-    *       If you want to use features like the SAIL character set, <key>Ctrl-8</key> etc, you may want to try a [[supdup|Supdup client in Java]].+
  
 ===== Minor caveats ===== ===== Minor caveats =====
   * **Check** that ''DEVICE;JOBDEV DIRMD'' exists and is a link to ''DEVICE;ATSIGN DIRDEV'', otherwise Dired in Emacs won't work (unless you do ''0m.vDIRED use DIR device$'' in your emacs init file). To create the link, use the '':LINK'' command.   * **Check** that ''DEVICE;JOBDEV DIRMD'' exists and is a link to ''DEVICE;ATSIGN DIRDEV'', otherwise Dired in Emacs won't work (unless you do ''0m.vDIRED use DIR device$'' in your emacs init file). To create the link, use the '':LINK'' command.
   * Putting ''223fs Help Char$'' in your Emacs init file may help, since the default help char is <key>Top-H</key>, and you probably don't have a <key>Top</key> key on your keyboard... (223 is <key>^_</key> (which you have to type twice, by the way, see Info node (ITSTTY)A/5.))   * Putting ''223fs Help Char$'' in your Emacs init file may help, since the default help char is <key>Top-H</key>, and you probably don't have a <key>Top</key> key on your keyboard... (223 is <key>^_</key> (which you have to type twice, by the way, see Info node (ITSTTY)A/5.))
-  * **INQUIR will still not work.** If you get the following error <code>MD*:inquir+  *  **Set up mail aliases.** It's probably a good idea to edit ''.MAIL.;NAMES >'', basically replacing KLH with your own uname, and replacing @NX with @MD and *NX with *MD 
 +  * **Greetings.** 
 +    - The file ''SYS;NET MAIL'' is printed when people connect from the network. Unfortunately this output is erased when Supdup clears the screen immediately after. 
 +    - Maybe ''SYS;SYSTEM MAIL'' is a better place for greetings, since it's printed after the version/fair share message. (The file ''SYS;LOCAL MAIL'' is shown to non-network/dialup connections.) 
 +    - The standard contents of ''SYS;NET MAIL'' points at ''HACK;PI NEWS'', which you'll like to update. 
 +  * **INQUIR will still not work if you started from a PI image.** If you get the following error <code>MD*:inquir
 INQUIR.181 INQUIR.181
 ;162798. CAN'T CREATE A HUNK OF THIS SIZE ;162798. CAN'T CREATE A HUNK OF THIS SIZE
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       - ''quit'' (when done)       - ''quit'' (when done)
     - You now have a fresh ''LISP'' directory, and ''INQUIR'' will work again.      - You now have a fresh ''LISP'' directory, and ''INQUIR'' will work again. 
-  *  **Set up mail aliases.** It's probably a good idea to edit ''.MAIL.;NAMES >'', basically replacing KLH with your own uname, and replacing @NX with @MD and *NX with *MD +
-  * **Greetings.** +
-    - The file ''SYS;NET MAIL'' is printed when people connect from the network. Unfortunately this output is erased when Supdup clears the screen immediately after. +
-    - Maybe ''SYS;SYSTEM MAIL'' is a better place for greetings, since it's printed after the version/fair share message. (The file ''SYS;LOCAL MAIL'' is shown to non-network/dialup connections.) +
-    - The standard contents of ''SYS;NET MAIL'' points at ''HACK;PI NEWS'', which you'll like to update.+
  
  
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  In addition to setting up mailing lists, you'll need to set up COMSAT (the mailer demon) properly.  In addition to setting up mailing lists, you'll need to set up COMSAT (the mailer demon) properly.
  
-  -  As mentioned in {{distrib.its.txt|distrib.its}, you need to set BUGHST, DOMGAT and TCPGAT. BUGHST is most likely the local IP address (192.168.0.203 for MD), the others are most likely your klh10 gwaddr (192.168.0.200 for MD). +  -  As mentioned in {{distrib.its.txt|distrib.its}}, you need to set BUGHST, DOMGAT and TCPGAT. BUGHST is most likely the local IP address (192.168.0.203 for MD), the others are most likely your klh10 gwaddr (192.168.0.200 for MD). 
   -  Put your IP addresses in the appropriate locations of .MAIL.;COMSAT BIN, set DEBUG/ 0 and XVERS/ 0, and start at PURIFY.    -  Put your IP addresses in the appropriate locations of .MAIL.;COMSAT BIN, set DEBUG/ 0 and XVERS/ 0, and start at PURIFY. 
   - To type in an address like 192.168.12.203, say <code>   - To type in an address like 192.168.12.203, say <code>
-<<192.$_24.>+<168.$_16.>+<12.$_8.>+203.>>+<<192.$_24.>+<168.$_16.>+<12.$_8.>+203.>
 </code> to DDT. Note the "." (to make decimal numbers) and that $ is <key>Escape</key>. </code> to DDT. Note the "." (to make decimal numbers) and that $ is <key>Escape</key>.
  
 I have some notes on [[mail-setup|my external email setup]] - YMMV (certainly).   I have some notes on [[mail-setup|my external email setup]] - YMMV (certainly).  
  
-You may also want to get the DNS resolver going (DQ device + resolver library). I will document this "soon".+You may also want to get the [[dqdev|DNS resolver]] going (DOMAIN: device + resolver library). I will document this "soon".
 ===== Maintenance ===== ===== Maintenance =====
 ====  Backup: ==== ====  Backup: ====
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   -  To see which tape number to use (if you are disciplined about tape use), issue the ''TAPES'' command, specifying ''TTY:'' as the LIST DEV(ice).   -  To see which tape number to use (if you are disciplined about tape use), issue the ''TAPES'' command, specifying ''TTY:'' as the LIST DEV(ice).
   -     -  
-    -      **Full backup:** give DUMP the command ''DUMP FULL LINKS'', followed by ''ICHECK'' to check tape contents and set dumped bit on checked files.+    -      **Full backup:** give DUMP the command ''DUMP FULL LINKS'', followed by ''REWIND'', and ''ICHECK'' to check tape contents and set dumped bit on checked files.
     -    **Incremental backup:** ''DUMP INCREM LINKS'' (checks and sets bits)     -    **Incremental backup:** ''DUMP INCREM LINKS'' (checks and sets bits)
   -  Backup done: ''QUIT''   -  Backup done: ''QUIT''
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-===== My contributions =====+===== Contributions =====
  
  
-  *  Patch for klh10 to support the Linux tun device (see [[http://home.comcast.net/~mmcm/klh10/tuntap.patch|MMcM's version]]).+  *  Patch for klh10 to support the Linux tun device (see [[https://gist.github.com/MMcM/c2f99cc7656af6c15aac#file-tuntap-patch|MMcM's version]]).
   *     An iptables script to set up restricted external access. No guarantees it'll work in your setup. (See my [[raspi|notes for Raspberry pi setup]] for the most recent version.)   *     An iptables script to set up restricted external access. No guarantees it'll work in your setup. (See my [[raspi|notes for Raspberry pi setup]] for the most recent version.)
   *     [[http://victor.se/bjorn/its/supdup.tar.gz|Supdup client for Linux]]   *     [[http://victor.se/bjorn/its/supdup.tar.gz|Supdup client for Linux]]
   *     A [[supdup|Supdup client in Java]]   *     A [[supdup|Supdup client in Java]]
 +  * Notes on [[rename|renaming your ITS]] (but don't try this the first thing you do!)
   *     A working [[ch11|CH11 device]] for tunneling CHAOS over UDP   *     A working [[ch11|CH11 device]] for tunneling CHAOS over UDP
-  *     Patches to enable [[chaos-dns|Chaos class support in BIND]] (the standard DNS server). Work on DNS support in ITS is in progress.+  *     Patches to enable [[chaos-dns|Chaos class support in BIND]] (the standard DNS server). For DNS support in ITS, see below.
   *     A [[http://up.update.uu.se/httpd|web server in Maclisp]] (yes, I like MIDAS, but it's easier in Lisp, really ;-).   *     A [[http://up.update.uu.se/httpd|web server in Maclisp]] (yes, I like MIDAS, but it's easier in Lisp, really ;-).
   *     I wrote my first TECO hack in something like 15 years, to apply patches in the form of SRCCOM output to the original source. The library is called [[http://victor.se/bjorn/its/spatch.tps|SPATCH]] (for Srccom PATCH, of course). See [[spatch|some usage notes]].   *     I wrote my first TECO hack in something like 15 years, to apply patches in the form of SRCCOM output to the original source. The library is called [[http://victor.se/bjorn/its/spatch.tps|SPATCH]] (for Srccom PATCH, of course). See [[spatch|some usage notes]].
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   *     Notes on [[mail-setup|my external email setup]] - YMMV (certainly).   *     Notes on [[mail-setup|my external email setup]] - YMMV (certainly).
   *     Notes on [[raspi|running klh10 on a Raspberry Pi]]   *     Notes on [[raspi|running klh10 on a Raspberry Pi]]
 +  * Notes on [[dqdev|setting up DNS support]]
  
 ===== To do ===== ===== To do =====
 Finish moving stuff from the old web pages to this Wiki. Finish moving stuff from the old web pages to this Wiki.
- 
-Things to document: 
- 
-  -  My ddt patches 
-  -  Patch to LUSER 
-  - How to set up and use the DQ device and resolver library 
  
 If you know how to do these things, please let me know: If you know how to do these things, please let me know:
  
-  -  Get all the sources missing from the PI distribution (and from Alan's archive) So far, I'm looking in particular for TURNIP;READER, SPACY;NETRTN and SPACY;LSRRTN (this is actually **done** now, by EJS!). It seems some EMACS sources are missing too (e.g. PURIFY). (The sources of :DATE aren't among PI, AI or MC sources, but Paul Svensson has them.)+  -  DONE through the [[https://github.com/PDP-10/its|Github repo]]: Get all the sources missing from the PI distribution (and from Alan's archive). It seems some EMACS sources are missing too (e.g. PURIFY). (The sources of :DATE aren't among PI, AI or MC sources, but Paul Svensson has them.)
   -  The "Fair share" is very wrong. The "host" device (idling the kn10 process in the null job) seems to be the root of this. There is very little idle/lost time on an ITS system under klh10 with the host device+patch. If this is disabled, the fair share and idle time works better. See also [[http://up.update.uu.se/idleup|notes here]].   -  The "Fair share" is very wrong. The "host" device (idling the kn10 process in the null job) seems to be the root of this. There is very little idle/lost time on an ITS system under klh10 with the host device+patch. If this is disabled, the fair share and idle time works better. See also [[http://up.update.uu.se/idleup|notes here]].
  
 ===== Trivia ===== ===== Trivia =====
-In the movie [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0244244/|Swordfish]] (Jackman, Travolta, Berry), the hacker played by Jackman connects to an ITS system in the basement of Caltech to retrieve his worm. In [[http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Swordfish.html|the script]], the ITS machine is at MIT, which is surprisingly well written by the author, Skip Woods. Would anyone know how he would know about ITS? Would anyone have a guess why the machine was moved to Caltech in the movie? +In the movie [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0244244/|Swordfish]] (Jackman, Travolta, Berry), the hacker played by Jackman connects to an ITS system in the basement of Caltech to retrieve his worm (scene starting [[https://youtu.be/0a21sS5yuTA?feature=shared&t=3112|at 51:52 in the movie]]). In [[http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Swordfish.html|the script]] (scene 72ff), the ITS machine is at MIT, which is surprisingly well written by the author, Skip Woods. Would anyone know how he would know about ITS? Would anyone have a guess why the machine was moved to Caltech in the movie? 
  
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